Five minutes with... Erin Hitchens, barrister at XXIV Old Buildings

Find a balance between ambition and arrogance in your answers to interview questions.

Tell us a bit about your chambers and your work at the commercial chancery bar.

The work of Chambers combines the traditional elements of the chancery bar, such as trusts, probate, civil fraud, insolvency and company law with work that has a more commercial aspect, such as business litigation, financial services and hedge funds, construction and aviation. Many of our members have rights of audience in the Caribbean, where a lot of our work relating to offshore trusts and funds takes place.

What can students expect if they undertake a mini-pupillage at your chambers and how might they go about securing one?

Our mini-pupillages are deliberately unassessed because the purpose of them is not for us to test students. Rather, they allow mini-pupils to experience what life at the Bar is like and to help them make a decision about whether or not they want to pursue a career as a barrister and at a set such as ours. We decide mini-pupillages on paper only – a covering letter and CV. Strong academics are helpful, but the covering letter should give strong reasons as to why the applicant wants to become a barrister and why they are interested in joining a commercial chancery chambers. Evidence of experience in advocacy, such as debating or mooting, is useful for showing dedication to the Bar.

How can aspiring barristers make the most of campus law fairs?

I’d advise students to ask directed questions, rather than simply introducing themselves as a law student and asking something generic. There can be some level of opaqueness over what chancery involves, so it’s nice to meet people who have done some research before talking to us, rather than relying on us to explain this area of law to them. It’s much more engaging for students if they have thought of something original to ask us, or have some specific query.

Talk us through the application process for pupillage at your chambers.

Our initial application is by way of a short and, we believe, not too time-consuming application form. Following the closing date for applications we assess and score the application forms. The 40 candidates with the highest scores will be invited to interview. If you are invited to interview we may ask you to send a CV and covering letter to chambers a couple of days before your interview (such that it may make sense to prepare these in advance).

The 12 candidates who perform best at interview will be invited to the final round selection day. We will endeavour to conduct this in chambers and anticipate that it will involve you being invited to prepare for and take part in (i) an advocacy exercise, (ii) a group discussion exercise, and (iii) an unseen written exercise. You will also have some talks from our tenants about our chambers and our work. The aim of the day is not only for us to evaluate your potential as pupils and tenants of chambers, but also to give you an opportunity to learn more about us and our work.

Offers of pupillage will be made in accordance with the Pupillage Gateway timetable.

What do you think applicants find most challenging when it comes to pupillage interviews?

The questions ‘Why do you want to be a barrister?’ or ‘What attracts you to the chancery Bar?’ are often stumbling blocks – largely because people’s responses can be rehearsed and sometimes sound insincere. It can also be difficult for students to find a balance between ambition and arrogance in their answers. While we are keen to see ambition and self-confidence, candidates who talk about how they could improve chambers tend to come across as rather presumptuous.

Do you ask applicants legal problems in pupillage interviews?

We have previously posed legal problems in interviews and may reintroduce them. In the past, they have revolved around issues of interpretation and have not required candidates to understand any principles of law. For example, we might ask applicants to analyse or interpret a clause of a contract.

Describe your ideal pupillage candidate.

We place an emphasis on intellect, because the chancery bar can be very intellectually rigorous. But strong academics are not enough – advocacy and presentation skills are important at every stage of assessment. In the past, we have interviewed candidates who have impeccable exam results, but who have lacked spark in interviews or failed to use a convincing method of presentation. Given that commercial chancery is a demanding and specialised area of law, we value people who know what we’re about and who can explain why they want to do the type of work we focus on.

As you doubtless know, only one in ten applicants secure pupillage. Can you define what makes a candidate successful?

The two candidates we took on last year both had very strong academics, but not the strongest of all the pupillage applicants. Neither did they come out with the top scores on the aptitude test, although they did perform well. However, at our assessment day they displayed a calm but confident presentation manner, sound intellectual analysis of the points they needed to consider and a method of dealing with counterarguments that was not aggressive, but measured, firm and confident. That is what made them shine.